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2016/07/08 09:07:49 (permalink)
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Oil on Tiller clutch and in transmission

I have a Honda FG200 tiller and the tines do not turn under load.
 
I various fora I read that the brass gear may have stripped, but I opened the transmission case and it looks fine. Transmission case is filled with thick gold oil. Is this normal, or could it be grease that has broken down over the years. There is no grease filler plugs on this transmission, so I suspect it is a sealed unit.
 
So I took off the transmission and found the centrifugal clutch was covered in oil. There is still oil in the crank case, so it has not all leaked out. could this be a broken seal somewhere?
 
Any suggestions are most welcome. Note that unlike the FG100, the transmission case does not come apart in 2 halves.
 
Thanks,
 
Craig in France

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    Re: Oil on Tiller clutch and in transmission 2016/07/08 12:29:55 (permalink)
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    It does sound like a seal or gasket. Look up the engine IPL.
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    Re: Oil on Tiller clutch and in transmission 2016/07/30 02:24:31 (permalink)
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    Thanks, I spoke to a friendly mechanic and found this was not normal. There is no gasket between the transmission and clutch chamber, which is the first clue that oil should not be there. He even emailed me the shop manual. With the help of a few improvised tools I replaced the crank case oil seal and then used clutch degreaser on the parts. For $10 I am good again. BTW another mechanic II first spoke to was trying to explain that this required a whole clutch and bearing replacement, which would cost $350. He said I should just buy a new FG201 for $550... Thanks to this forum, and gardenweb for all the tips. $10 vs $550 is HUGE!
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    Re: Oil on Tiller clutch and in transmission 2016/07/30 02:27:28 (permalink)
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    Also, I found out that the thick gold oil in the transmission was regular gear oil with brass powder from the gear wearing. Cleaned and replaced that. After 15 years, the brass gear is worn but not too bad so I did not replace it.
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    Re: Oil on Tiller clutch and in transmission 2016/07/30 15:31:01 (permalink)
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    Nice of the mechanic to send you the manual.
    Glad you got it fixed.😀
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