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2018/08/11 09:53:32
itsgalf

Briggs and Stratton 123K02 No Spark

Hello all,

I had purchased an Briggs and Stratton lawnmower that some guy couldn't start for $40. Assumed it would be an easy enough fix.

Model: 917.378451
Engine: 123K02-0183-E1

I got a kit to rebuild the carb and then replaced the spark plug. Figured that should get it going.

But there seems to still be no spark. I followed some video and checked the resistance on the ignition coil. The old ignition coil showed 'OL' so pretty sure that was no good. I ordered a new one on amazon from HIFROM that looked to have same part number. The new one looked a little different than the old one, but it fit the mounting bolts so I installed that. 


Saw this on the HIFROM amazon page
"4. Please note that: the one we sell is for later 802574, not for the earlier, please check the pictures carefully before you buy it."

Anyways, I tried to start again and still didn't work. No spark still. I disconnected the wiring going to the kill switch and tried to test for spark again, but nothing. The magnetron is spaced at 0.010"

Now a few questions:

1. The flywheel has the two raised areas on opposite ends that wipe past the ignition coil. Are both ends supposed to attract metal? Only one side will pull in metal, the other side does not.

2. Is the only possible problem here the ignition coil, flywheel magnet, or spark plug? That's what I'm figuring, but the ignition coil and spark plug are new.

3. Is the new ignition coil not being the same as the old one the problem? The coil itself seems fine and has a good resistance reading across the coil (dunno, just saw some video saying it should read X Ohms across). 

Thanks
- Marco

Here's a picture of the old and new ignitions coils side by side with each other

4 comments Leave a comment
AVB
The new version will work fine provide it is okay.
 
Primary Winding reading is 1.5 - 1.7 Ω.
Secondary Winding reading is about +- 6 KΩ.
 
Now you can flipping the over as some of the Chinese coils have been coming in assembled wrong and see it now sparks.
 
As far as the plug being does mean it good find a known good to test with.
 
The flywheel has the two raised areas on opposite ends that wipe past the ignition coil. Are both ends supposed to attract metal? Only one side will pull in metal, the other side does not.

If you are two the opposite sides of the flywheel that is normal. If you are referring the side with the magnets and that one is not attracting iron then is a problem.
 
Also since this is a walk behind mower check for a sheared flywheel key. The engine will fire but at the wrong time.
2018/08/11 10:17:15
itsgalf
Hello AVB, Thanks for the response.
 
So I followed the advice to change the coil out with a 'known good'. I should have done that originally, just wasn't thinking.
 
I had another Craftsman mower w/ B&S Engine that was quite similar. Took the ignition coil from that and used it on the inoperable one. Started right up. *face palm*. Looks like that Chinese coil is NFG
 
Now you can flipping the over as some of the Chinese coils have been coming in assembled wrong and see it now sparks.

 
What is meant by this? I don't know much about the coils.
Thanks, Marco
 
Also this is what I meant about the flywheel. One 'side' is magnetic, the other side is not. But seeing as my other Craftsman mower is also this way - I guess that it is normal.

 

2018/08/11 12:46:31
AVB
I see I left the word Coil. Sorry I do think a lot faster than I type.
 
What I meant is try installing the coil upside down to see if they had the electronics in it backwards. But I do see where you do know now that it is definitely a problem with the coil so you're on the right track now.
2018/08/11 14:25:07
itsgalf
Ok, I tried installing the coil upside down just to see if that coil was salvageable or not. It still didn't spark. Looks like I need to obtain a new coil.
 
Thanks for the help
2018/08/11 17:14:12

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