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When Does My Battery Charge 22K Generac

I have a new Generac 22K whole house automatic generator. Question is, does the battery charge when sitting idle as long as the house power is available, or does is only charge when the engine is running. Reason I ask is the bi-weekly exercise is only for 5 minutes and each time it does its exercise the battery voltage drops by .1 volts. Its gone from 14 volts to 13.5 so far and has exercised 5 times. Seems its not running long enough to replace the voltage it used to start. I'm thinking of putting a battery tender on it, any suggestions. Thanks

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    Re: When Does My Battery Charge 22K Generac 2023/02/23 00:37:24 (permalink)
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    I have a new Generac 22K whole house automatic generator. Question is, does the battery charge when sitting idle as long as the house power is available, or does is only charge when the engine is running. Reason I ask is the bi-weekly exercise is only for 5 minutes and each time it does its exercise the battery voltage drops by .1 volts. Its gone from 14 volts to 13.5 so far and has exercised 5 times. Seems its not running long enough to replace the voltage it used to start. I'm thinking of putting a battery tender on it, any suggestions. Thanks


    The battery in your Generac 22K whole house automatic generator should charge when the generator is running and supplying power to your home. The generator's engine drives an alternator that produces the electrical current needed to charge the battery. When the generator is not running, the battery is not being charged. Therefore, it's possible that the bi-weekly exercise is not providing enough time to fully recharge the battery after starting the generator.
    Using a battery tender is a good solution to ensure that your battery remains fully charged. A battery tender is a charger that automatically maintains the battery's charge level and prevents overcharging.
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    Re: When Does My Battery Charge 22K Generac 2023/02/23 07:58:18 (permalink)
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    Thank you for that info, that is what I thought. Seems even Generac does not have the correct information when you call them (sad). What would be the easiest way to find 110 volts inside the generator so I don't have to run a separate ac outlet to the unit for the battery tender? I'm okay with doing the electrical work but I'm not familiar with the generator yet as it was just installed 2 months ago. This summer I will get into it.
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    Re: When Does My Battery Charge 22K Generac 2023/03/24 12:30:01 (permalink)
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    I have a new Generac 22K whole house automatic generator. Question is, does the battery charge when sitting idle as long as the house power is available, or does is only charge when the engine is running. Reason I ask is the bi-weekly exercise is only for 5 minutes and each time it does its exercise the battery voltage drops by .1 volts. Its gone from 14 volts to 13.5 so far and has exercised 5 times. Seems its not running long enough to replace the voltage it used to start. I'm thinking of putting a battery tender on it, any suggestions. Thanks


    The battery in your Generac 22K whole house automatic generator should charge when the generator is running and supplying power to your home. The generator's engine drives an alternator that produces the electrical current needed to charge the battery. When the generator is not running, the battery is not being charged. Therefore, it's possible that the bi-weekly exercise is not providing enough time to fully recharge the battery after starting the generator.
    Using a battery tender is a good solution to ensure that your battery remains fully charged. A battery tender is a charger that automatically maintains the battery's charge level and prevents overcharging.


    I came across this post and had to make an account before you destroy your $800+ control panel. 
     
     
    I hate to say this but this is NOT correct. First off, do you have an ATS? I'm assuming so from your post. 
    There are 3 circuits that run 120 volts from the ATS to the generator; N1, N2, T1. 
    The N1 and N2 are signal wires that tell the ATS whether you have utility power. The T1 fuse sends constant power to the generator/control panel. The control panel then converts that to DC voltage and charges the battery. 
    When the generator is off, the 120V on the T1 comes from utility power. When the generator is running it sends power to the ATS to power your house and the T1 circuit sends power back to it to charge the battery.
    There is no alternator on air cooled generators. The engine spins the 'generator' part and makes 120V AC power. 
     
    Usual battery voltage is ~13.3-13.8V DC. Your 13.5V is fine on the battery. Do NOT add a battery tender in addition to the built in charger from the control panel, you will fry it. If your battery wasnt charging, your battery will die quick with the engine running. Your battery was probably originally at 14 volts and the voltage is dropping to the normal range. 
     
    TLDR: Do NOT add a battery tender. Your battery voltage is fine. Power to charge comes from the ATS through either utility power or through generator power. 
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    Re: When Does My Battery Charge 22K Generac 2023/03/24 12:41:57 (permalink)
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    I have a new Generac 22K whole house automatic generator. Question is, does the battery charge when sitting idle as long as the house power is available, or does is only charge when the engine is running. Reason I ask is the bi-weekly exercise is only for 5 minutes and each time it does its exercise the battery voltage drops by .1 volts. Its gone from 14 volts to 13.5 so far and has exercised 5 times. Seems its not running long enough to replace the voltage it used to start. I'm thinking of putting a battery tender on it, any suggestions. Thanks


    The battery in your Generac 22K whole house automatic generator should charge when the generator is running and supplying power to your home. The generator's engine drives an alternator that produces the electrical current needed to charge the battery. When the generator is not running, the battery is not being charged. Therefore, it's possible that the bi-weekly exercise is not providing enough time to fully recharge the battery after starting the generator.
    Using a battery tender is a good solution to ensure that your battery remains fully charged. A battery tender is a charger that automatically maintains the battery's charge level and prevents overcharging.


    I came across this post and had to make an account before you destroy your $800+ control panel. 
     
     
    I hate to say this but this is NOT correct. First off, do you have an ATS? I'm assuming so from your post. 
    There are 3 circuits that run 120 volts from the ATS to the generator; N1, N2, T1. 
    The N1 and N2 are signal wires that tell the ATS whether you have utility power. The T1 fuse sends constant power to the generator/control panel. The control panel then converts that to DC voltage and charges the battery. 
    When the generator is off, the 120V on the T1 comes from utility power. When the generator is running it sends power to the ATS to power your house and the T1 circuit sends power back to it to charge the battery.
    There is no alternator on air cooled generators. The engine spins the 'generator' part and makes 120V AC power. 
     
    Usual battery voltage is ~13.3-13.8V DC. Your 13.5V is fine on the battery. Do NOT add a battery tender in addition to the built in charger from the control panel, you will fry it. If your battery wasnt charging, your battery will die quick with the engine running. Your battery was probably originally at 14 volts and the voltage is dropping to the normal range. 
     
    TLDR: Do NOT add a battery tender. Your battery voltage is fine. Power to charge comes from the ATS through either utility power or through generator power. 




    Yes I have an ATS. Well you sound right on about the voltages and I think I will leave well enough alone and just monitor the battery voltage on my app and replace in three years as suggested.
    Mine started out at 14 volts like you said and dropped down to 3.5 volts. Each time it would exercise for 5 minutes it dropped .1 volts. Last time it started at 3.5v and after it ran for 5 minutes it was a 3.6 volts. Generac told me it charges when sitting idle, not sure that is true. Thanks for the info.
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    Re: When Does My Battery Charge 22K Generac 2023/03/24 15:27:23 (permalink)
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    Like I said, above 13V or so is an appropriate voltage. Your generator will usually tell you when the charger or battery is bad.

    Your battery is always being charged as long as you either have utility power or generator power. If you want to see the alert and you're comfortable around electricity, you can pull the T1 fuse using an insulated fuse puller (careful it has 120V going through it) and see the controller alert that there is no AC power to charger (about a minute delay from listing AC power)

    I suggest you do a battery check once a year. Checking the voltage is usually not enough. You can take the battery out and take it to an auto parts store so they can fully check the battery. Also, I would replace the battery at least every 3 years if not every 2 even if the battery passes checks. That's my current practice.
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    Re: When Does My Battery Charge 22K Generac 2023/03/24 15:31:50 (permalink)
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    Also, if possible set your exercise cycle to weekly at a time when you'll be home to hear the generator. And take it off quite mode. There's known possible issues with the quiet mode during the exercise cycle. Lastly, be mindful that the exercise cycle doesn't mean that your generator will power your house during an outage. It just means it can start and burn off condensation in the cylinders and oil. I do a simulated outage twice a year before hurricane season and winter season.
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