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Honda EU3000is - Issues with Choke stuck in CLOSED - Spring tension?

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2023/04/11 21:01:55 (permalink)
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Honda EU3000is - Issues with Choke stuck in CLOSED - Spring tension?

Working on a Honda EU3000is for my mother-in-law, and what I'm seeing is that if I pull the Choke knob to the CLOSED position, the choke cable will correctly pull on the choke control and close the choke...
 
If I then start the generator and push the Choke knob in, to the OPEN position, the cable slides through the holder, but the control plate itself remains stuck in the CLOSED position, which obviously makes the generator not run correctly... if I stick my finger in there and nudge the control to the OPEN state, the generator runs beautifully...
 
Attaching pictures so you can see what it looks like when I Pull/Push the knob, as well as what it SHOULD look like when I push the knob (but have to manually set it to currently).
 
I've sprayed some WD40 around all of the moving parts in case it was just stuck, but it doesn't seem to have done much. Not sure if the spring on the throttle cable just doesn't have the push it needs to slide the part back into place, or if there's something I'm missing that's out of view which might be over tightened. Any help & suggestions are appreciated!

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    Re: Honda EU3000is - Issues with Choke stuck in CLOSED - Spring tension? 2023/04/12 08:52:39 (permalink)
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    Usually, (not sure on your machine) that barrel cable end (on the cable itself) will sit in a recess on the lever.  
     
    Yours does not appear to do that(it extends out). 
     
    Pull the cable off the end and rotate that swivel part 180 degrees. 
     
    Was that main spring removed at all?
     
     
    Also, I see a very small hole in the end of the choke plate, possibly for a return spring (to pull the plate open itself, not just counting on the cable).. 
    It there a similar hole nearby where a very small pull spring would fit?   
     
    I checked some parts lists for an EU3000 but without the serial # I can't find a parts pic for the assembly...
     
     
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    post edited by SRTsFZ6 - 2023/04/12 09:15:44
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    Re: Honda EU3000is - Issues with Choke stuck in CLOSED - Spring tension? 2023/04/12 11:39:02 (permalink)
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    Thanks SRTsFZ6,
     
    You're correct that mine doesn't sit in the recess - I'd actually seen a video where they were showing that for this model, that's the correct setup, and there's a common failure where if the cable end accidentally gets placed in the recess, it'll pop out of the holder entirely when the choke is pushed in (essentially, the tapered end of the spring goes in the recess, so that when it pushes back into the holder, it stays in place and doesn't slip up and out).
     
    That said, I'm certainly down for giving it a try, just on the chance that it ends up working! It's easy enough to try, and easy enough to swap back if it fails.

    I didn't see anywhere to mount a return spring, nor did I see one on the parts list I was looking at, but I'd had the same thought of possibly trying to rig something up as a last ditch if nothing else ends up working (just trying to avoid it, as I'd either have to get the perfect spring tension to balance the existing spring, or manually hold the choke closed while it warmed up). 

    Good point on including the Serial # in the post - if it helps, it's EZGF-1522594
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    Re: Honda EU3000is - Issues with Choke stuck in CLOSED - Spring tension? 2023/04/12 18:44:33 (permalink)
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    With the exact model #, I found the parts site here at Jacks:
     
    https://www.jackssmallengines.com/jacks-parts-lookup/manufacturer/honda/generator/eu3000is-a-generator-jpn-vin-ezgf-1000001-to-ezgf-1079999
     
    I don't see the choke cable at all, the closest thing is the carb...
     
    Do you have a link for the parts you found?
     
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    Re: Honda EU3000is - Issues with Choke stuck in CLOSED - Spring tension? 2023/04/12 18:50:07 (permalink)
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    Also, with the cable un-hooked, 
     
      - Does the choke lever have any "spring action" (open/close by use of a light internal spring)?
      -Does the cable itself have any binding (disconnected) at all?  
     
     
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    Re: Honda EU3000is - Issues with Choke stuck in CLOSED - Spring tension? 2023/04/12 19:19:03 (permalink)
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    The Throttle Cable part I found was in the same general area, but under the 'Control Panel' page (part #1 under there) - threw me for a loop when I was first looking.

    With the cable unhooked, the lever doesn't have any spring action on it's own from what I can tell - whether that's a total lack of spring action, or just something being gunked up... I can't say. I don't think I saw any other Springs hooked to that part on the part sheet though
     
    Cable doesn't seem to bind at all - slides pretty freely when I push/pull the throttle control knob... very minor resistance, like you'd expect from something like that... but not enough that I'd expect it to cause any issue with the control.
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