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2024/11/25 11:54:44 (permalink)
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Engine Knocks after changing to electronic ignition

I recently moved away from points to an electronic ignition on my 1975 tiller. It has a B&S 80202-0659-01 75110303 engine. 
 
Changed over because wasn't getting a spark. 
 
Runs now but with a very severe knock. Never had this before.
 
Wondering if the two could be related (timing)? Actually hoping it's related and not mechanical.  
 
Really would like to avoid a tear down and hoping the cause (and remedy) is obvious to the experts on here..
 
Thanks in advance for your help.
 
Jeff 
 

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    Re: Engine Knocks after changing to electronic ignition 2024/11/25 13:25:02 (permalink)
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    What's the air gap between the coil and flywheel?
     
    Are there any marks on the flywheel and/or coil from rubbing?
     
    If not, and have an air gap set at .010" (or the thickness of a business card),
    look under the cover for something not lined up / rubbing. 
     
    I don't think you had anything off so re-check where you've been (shrouds specifically).  
    I seriously doubt there's any new, internal damage.
     
     
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    Re: Engine Knocks after changing to electronic ignition 2024/11/25 14:34:25 (permalink)
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    Thanks Scott for your reply. 
     
    We're thinking alike here...
     
    Here's what I did after starting it the first time and hearing the knock: 
     
    I went back and confirmed the gap was at .010" and removed the shrouding on the drive side of the 'tiller because that's were the knock seemed to be coming from. I really hoped that was it. I also removed the vertical governor vane just in case it was the cause of the knock.  I also checked the fly wheel. It's on tight and it's not missing any teeth.  The clutch seems to be working OK (lubed it).  
     
    I then started it again and the knock was still there.
     
    It was then that I posted my question the this forum. 
     
    I hesitate to start it again as the knock is pretty severe. 
     
    I'll double check things again. Anything else I should be checking and since you didn't mention timing, should I discount it as a possible cause?
     
    Thanks again for your prompt reply, Scott.
     
    Jeff
     
     
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    Re: Engine Knocks after changing to electronic ignition 2024/11/25 15:34:30 (permalink)
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    Timing wouldn't cause any loud/major knocking.
     
    Can you disconnect the engine from the machine (IE belt/gear, etc)?
     
    We need to isolate and make sure it's coming from the engine and not the rest 
    of the machine..  
     
    Also, if the noise proven to be from the engine, pull the plug and try rocking, in different 
    positions, the flywheel.   Your trying to hear / feel any noises or looseness from inside the engine.
     
    With just a coil swap, then all of the sudden major knocking, I doubt there's any damage inside
    as it ran fine with the other coil.  Perhaps a dropped bolt, nut, loose shroud is smacking something..
     
    But the noise is more of a hard knock than scraping?
     
    I would, depending on what you find, drain the oil into a clean container.
    Look closely for any metal flakes (fine size, large, any), which should not be in there.
    If you find some, there's something internally going on...
     
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    Re: Engine Knocks after changing to electronic ignition 2024/11/25 16:32:30 (permalink)
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    Good suggestions, all, Scott....thanks!
     
    I'll let you know what I uncover.
     
    Jeff
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