ok thank you i have replaced a fuel pump before so it is easy to do , so the pump pulls the fuel up to the fuel filter then on to pump, then to carb , I will try than next the fuel pump, I thank yall for being so patient with me but I've come this far and I would give anything just to know it will crank, oh by the way I got a new battery , shouldnt have because my battery test good but I thought wth.. I don't try no more than a couple of time to crank , I figure if it is going to crank it would, its trying to... I bet I have the cleanest crankcase than anyone lol, I said it I worked on ppls mower I would have to get all the old oil off someone said well you wouldn't make nothing doing that .. can't help it, I want mine clean, suppose to run better..thanks again